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Names for tropical storms

  • We should align all our terms with En. They do not at present, and there are a whole choice of terms. Storms, cyclones, hurricanes, typhoons, tropical storms... If we can get a consensus to follow En on this, it will make admins jobs easier. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
That's interesting. How does it affect admin jobs when articles have different names? Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Or, put another way, how does it affect admins more than it affects anyone else? --Auntof6 (talk) 11:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Hurricanes should be named when they originate in the Atlantic and usually hit the U.S. and Mexico or when they hit in the Pacific and hit Japan, China or the Koreas. That's what I heard. Cyclones originate in the Indian Ocean I think. I don't know about the rest. Also, how does it affect admins @Macdonald-ross? I don't seem to understand. At the worst, it might affect editors creating dupe pages and categories failing due to debated naming. Ely - Talk 13:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Unless we have a reason, we should follow En. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
    And could you send a link to the EN-wiki consensus @Macdonald-ross? Ely - Talk 15:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I already do that, Macdonald-ross. For example, I write lots of frog articles, but the scientists sometimes change the scientific name. I will give the article a different name than the en.wiki article if, for example, the frog has been renamed Boana awesomefrog from Hypsiboas awesomefrog. I'm just curious about the admins and their problems because it's a part of the simple.wiki community. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:12, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
  • In common sense, every change in terminology raises a question of verifiability. Admins are not necessarily subject-matter experts, and often cannot judge whether choice of alternative terms are correct. "Follow En" is just a rubric to make decisions easier. It's what we do in doubtful cases because they have many more subject-matter experts than we do.
In the case of Linnaean biological names any changes must align with the International taxonomical commission's decisions. There may be a time-lag before an official decision is ratified. In other words, there's a structure which deals with the problem. Using common names raises other problems because a widespread species can easily have over a dozen local names, and we have a widespread readership.
Any changes from a standard system of names is going to raise questions as to whether the changes are justified and whether they collectively make sense. Inside the projects on En wiki are many discussions about the naming and classification of their topics. We benefit by following them. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any EN consensus @Macdonald-ross. See this page. Ely - Talk 08:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I think you are diverting the topic. All I said was "We should align all our terms with En. They do not at present, and there are a whole choice of terms. Storms, cyclones, hurricanes, typhoons, tropical storms... If we can get a consensus to follow En on this, it will make admins jobs easier. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes, but there is no consensus on en. I checked the category as well. While I am fine with "We should align all our terms with En. They do not at present, and there are a whole choice of terms." I cannot agree with the tropical storm stuff as there is no en consensus. And you still haven't told how it will benefit admins specifically. Ely - Talk 13:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
  • Well, so long as we make full use of their weather portal, and their WikiProjects, it would be unreasonable to ask for more. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Meitei Language Fonts

So I know they got approval to start their Wiki earlier this year. But when the articles are being put here all I see are empty boxes or boxes with ? in them. Does the font need to be added to this wiki for it be seen? I installed them locally but that does not help. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 17:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

It needs to be added on your local machine, means your local computer doesn't have it. You likely either installed them incorrectly or they weren't the right ones. Nothing this wiki can do about it. -Djsasso (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 has begun

 

Happy September, Simple English Wikipedia. The Wiki Loves Women South Asia 2021 edit-a-thon is now open! Any article on gender gap or women's empowerment is eligible. Entries do not have to be specific to South Asia. We serve the South Asian audience by providing content in a language they read: Simple English. Feel free to participate any time before October 1, either as a contestant, by providing a source, or by suggesting an article for expansion or creation! Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Compression of vertical languages

Is there any way to compress Mongolian and similar languages that take up vertical space? Sort of like an expand button? It is unsightly seeing many lines empty with a singular character in them.

Definitely not Ely - Talk 04:22, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Any takers?

This article is a Asian History article titled State of Sindh. I did what I could to fix all of the article, however, I have to go to work for a 14 hour shift. I had to remove the gallery and some other image links as they were broken. If anything can find them and put them back in, I think this article can be done. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Ely - Talk 04:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)


few questions

i got few questions over here https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GovGuide#open

pls reply there so i can see it

anytime thx

answers should be under each question so i know which is being answerd, thx

Complexity tools

Someone in the WLW contest brought this up while translating an otherwise eligible page from a more complex wiki: Is there a tool that filters out the BE 1500 words in a text and highlights the others?

Wikinews has something similar for links. It turns funky ones green. If there is I'd use the heck out of that thing. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

The English on the typical WP page is usually quite poor as prose. Basic English was played with when this wiki was young. It was formulated 100 years ago, and rarely has words necessary in modern science & technology, nor modern idiomatic use of language. Simple sentence structure works wonders for the readers. Of course it makes sense to use common words, and avoid complex constructions where one can. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:45, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
The BE 500 words are not sufficient. It is often good to use direct language instead of passive language. Look at the verbs: better to say "You need a telescope or binoculars", rather than "It cannot be seen with the naked eye". (same point made in respect of Neptune discussion). Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Even better would be something like "People need a telescope or binoculars to see it", because using second person is not the right tone for an encyclopedia (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Avoid second-person pronouns). --Auntof6 (talk) 16:24, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Apart from the fact that most of the word-lists cited (BE850,BE1500) are no good once it comes to more advanced scientific topics, there's a different question: Are we counting "words", or "word forms": example: "be" 1 word, but "be,am,are,is,being,been,was,were,aren't, possibly ain't" (10 word forms). Dividing the "1500 words" by possibly 8-10 forms per word doesn't leave use with many words to use. So the point shouldn't be to rely on a word list, but to use common sense, and explain well. --Eptalon (talk) 16:32, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Another issue with the list has to do with the fact that many English words have more than one meaning, and sometimes a word is simple when used in one way but not when used in another. That's especially true with idioms. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:04, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Which if not used with the correct before or after it can be very confusing as well and even more so for someone who is not a native speaker of English. Just like the different forms of English alone all have different meanings. Australian, American, British, Indian, etc., may use the same word but will have a different meaning based on the country it’s being used in. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January

Hello everyone,

We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.

Summary:

We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.

Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year

In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.

However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.

We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.

Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities

We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.

A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet

We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.

We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!

Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase

If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!

Feedback

  • What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
  • How would you like to use our new sandbox?
  • What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
  • What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?

Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

New Stub - Africa

Greetings all - I wanted to see if anyone had an issue with a new stub called Africa-stub? We have stubs for a lot of major countries and with everything going and also a lot of Nigerian articles, I feel this would be a good stub to have so it can be sorted to Africa and those from that area or have expertise in that geographic area can have a list of articles to work on. Thoughts? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I'd support, but are there over a thousand articles in need of it? Apart from that, see the Simple Stub Project. Ely - Talk 03:14, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian I am very familiar with the project. I tag a lot of articles. There does not need to be over a thousand articles to have a stub. I can tell you off the top of my head, there are at least 200 pages so far. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb you might want to see this. Ely - Talk 03:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
And? I know all of that. It’s 2 years old and we have expanded so I have a right to get others input on it. So if you support it why are you trying to derail the discussion? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Yeesh. Calm down. I'm just telling you to take a look at what happened last time. It was going to be added, but never made it. Ely - Talk 03:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
The reason I said that is because both links you have shown me are things I’m already aware of. Don’t take offense please. I’ve been doing this for a long time :). This is a new time and a lot of stuff can use that. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: Please bring this up in the place designated for these requests. Also please note:
  • The correct question is not "does anyone have an issue if I create this?": that implies that you are going to create it if no one objects, and that is not how it works The correct question would be something like "is the community willing to approve this?"
  • Yes, you pretty much do need at least a thousand articles. We keep the number of stub types to a minimum, and it is not necessary to have a stub type just because something is a major topic.
  • Are you personally going to work on Africa stubs, or is there another user planning to? If not, the stub will likely not be created.
Finally, keep in mind that you don't need a dedicated stub type to work in a subject area. But go ahead and make the request in the correct place and see what happens. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6 I don’t see anywhere where I said anything you mentioned in #1 above. Absolutely no where did I say I would create it regardless. Nor did I even come close to stating that so please re-read my proposal and correct your statement. As far as the last one yes I plan on working on them but we should have a stub for each continent minimum (IMO). According to the count from 2+ years ago there are over 3k articles that can go into once numerous search terms are completed. These can be actors animals cities towns etc. I will repost it at the forum where no one really goes to or reads. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
JUST FORGET THIS as it seems the category (Redacted) never wants to expand anything according to every time something was asked on the talk page. So this is withdrawn. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Outdated article

I was wondering if anyone wanted to update the Scratch (programming language) page. It is very outdated. SoyokoAnis - talk 17:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll check it out, I've used it quite a bit. Ely - Talk 12:49, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

thread subscribe

How do I view the threads on talkpages I have subscribed to? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

If you mean pages on your watchlist, you would go to the talk page to see them. The watchlist will show you individual changes that have been made since the last time you looked at the page, so you can sometimes see the thread names. Does that answer your question? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Results for the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election

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Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:

  1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
  2. Victoria Doronina
  3. Dariusz Jemielniak
  4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.

Read the full announcement here.<section end="announcement-content"/> Xeno (WMF) (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Darya Sindhu

the rfd tag keep getting removed, can the page be protected? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@つがる If the page is at risk of deletion, is protection really nesscary? SoyokoAnis - talk 19:35, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Semi-Protection would to be stop the RFD template from being removed. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 19:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021

<section begin="announcement-content"/>Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 wikimedia.org with questions.<section end="announcement-content"/>

Xeno (WMF) 17:02, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Server switch

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They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Talk to the Community Tech

 

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

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The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

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See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata

Hi! How do I connect items to Wikidata? Quite a few articles I created have been popping up in notices with "Mike Peel" or "Pi bot" connecting it to Wikidata. How do I do this?

Ely - Talk 12:42, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Elytrian, when you create an article, see the area left of the page. Under "in other languages", there should be an "Add links" button. Press that. If the article you created is on enwiki, enter "enwiki" in the top box and the title of the page on enwiki in the bottom box. Then press "Link with page". It will say which pages the page is being linked to, you just need to press "Confirm". Now, your page is linked to Wikidata. --Ferien (talk) 12:57, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
@Elytrian: A tip about this: Make sure that the subject of the page you're linking is an exact match for the subject of the one you link to. For various reasons, sometimes there isn't an exact subject match for an article here. Also, a page on enwiki with the same title as a page here isn't necessarily about the same thing. The title of the matching page may be different, and that's okay. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Yeah. Our article "Swirlies" was about sticking someone's head in a toilet, and it linked to the en.wiki article about the band "en:The Swirlies." Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Question on UserPage

hello wish you a great time how can i give my name on my User page a color, like your name displays with color not just simple black color. Sakura emad (talk) 18:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

{{DISPLAYTITLE:User:}} use this. after the user, insert whatever you want to put as your title. Colored characters are made using the <span> tag. See my page or TDKR Chicago 101's page for examples. Ely - Talk 09:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Why my created articles are not shown in google search

I have created some article so why it is not searchable in google search 2405:201:3000:4110:DC1B:D073:8320:77F (talk) 09:21, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Articles you create don't automatically go to google. It depends on when google discovers and adds the page. -Djsasso (talk) 10:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Thankyou for your reply but please undo your move https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brij_Kishore_Sharma&action=history because as all citations his orignal name is Brij Kishore Sharma "Tara" not Brij Kishore Sharma

How to add simple wikipedia page to English wikipedia page category

I want to add simple wikipedia page to a english wikipedia category so how I can do it

Hello, and welcome to our Wikipedia. English Wikipedia has many more pages than we do, thir category system is different. So if a category you think should exist here doesn't exist, there are two options: Either you find another category that fits, or you create the new category. Note that categories need to have at least three pages (or categories) in them. If you you tell us what the page, is, we can also help you finding a category for it. --Eptalon (talk) 11:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Page Move Request

Sir there is two person with on name one is poet and one is politician see this https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brij_Kishore_Sharma and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brij_Kishore_Sharma so I want that please change the poet's wikipedia page name because as all references his orignal name is Brij Kishore Sharma "Tara" and it is difficult know who is "Tara" and who is sharma so please move this page https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brij_Kishore_Sharma. Thankyou

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